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January 19, 1994

                                    MINUTES

                                    VPI&SU

                  COMMISSION ON GRADUATE STUDIES AND POLICIES

                         19 JANUARY, 1994   3:30 P.M.

                                206 SANDY HALL

 

 

  Present: Drs. Boyle, Brooker-Gross, Eaton, Eustis, Eyre, Johnson, LaBerge,

  Merola, O'Brien, Olin, Orcutt, Peters, Smith, Stauffer, Stout, Wokutch, Ms.

  Bezold, Ms. Rainer-Jeanes, Mr. Schell, Mr. Kahn, Mr. Waddill

 

  Absent with notification: Aughenbaugh, Mitchiner, Waddill

 

  Absent: Bohr, Boles, Burger, Haney

 

  Visitors: Marvin Foushee - Registrar's Office Representative

 

            Susan Trulove -  Spectrum Representative

 

 

  1.  ANNOUNCEMENTS- Professor Michael O'Brien stated that Dr.  Mitchiner

      would be absent from the meeting and he would be presiding, as

      Chairman-Elect, over today's meeting.

 

  2.  INFORMATIONAL HANDOUTS - Two resolutions were circulated from the

      Course and Program Criteria Committee; Committee report and resolution

      from the Degree Requirements, Standards, Criteria and Academic Policies

      Committee and a proposal from the Graduate Research Policies and Pro-

      grams Committee.

 

  3.  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA - Approved as modified.

 

  4.  APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF 17 NOVEMBER 1993 -  The minutes were approved as

      distributed.

 

  5.  COMMITTEE REPORTS

 

 

      COURSE AND PROGRAM CRITERIA COMMITTEE - Michael O'Brien presented the

      report of the committee.

 

      At the meeting on December 8, 1993, seven courses were considered.  CE

      5344 - Environmental Systems Optimization was approved; CE 5574 -

      Geoenvironmental Engineering was approved; EE 5534 - Representation and

      Cynthesis of Computer Systems was approved contingent on no objects in

      the 15 day review and minor modifications;  EE 6204 - Advanced Topics

      in Electronics was tabled; ISE 4244 - Fundamentals of Computer Inte-

      grated Manufacturing was tabled, ISE 4254 - Computer-aided Process

      Planning was tabled; ISE 4264 - Industrial Automation was tabled.

 

      There was additional discussion of the 4000/5000 level courses for

      Graduate Credit which will be brought forward in the form of resol-

      utions for consideration at this meeting as Item 8a and 8b.

 

      The next meeting will be January 26 in 201 Hancock Hall and this will

      be noted on the agenda for the next meeting.

 

 

      DEGREE REQUIREMENTS, STANDARDS, CRITERIA AND ACADEMIC POLICIES - Steve

      Boyle referred to the Proposed Revision 6325 (circulated earlier) deal-

      ing with adding and dropping of classes.

 

      Dr. Boyle stated that this revision is intended to define the circum-

      stances under which students can add or drop courses.  The second sec-

      tion of the revision is to define the mechanics of the timing by which

      the students are allowed to do this.  The situation is that there are a

      number of instances in which students, beyond the last drop date, have

      requested to add or drop courses.  The graduate school has been permit-

      ting students, with permission of the advisor, to drop/add courses af-

      ter this deadline.  This revision was proposed to provide guidelines

      for this add/drop period and to provide a mechanism for noting the aca-

      demic circumstances underwhich the drop occurred.

 

      There was considerable discussion of the proposed revision and there

      were suggested changes that the commission membership asked the commit-

      tee to consider.  Dr. Boyle asked that all suggestions be submitted to

      the committee for consideration at their next meeting.  The proposed

      revision was referred back to the committee for further consideration.

 

      Dr. Boyle asked that members refer to the the second section of the

      committee report entitled: Survey Results: External examiners in dis-

      sertation programs.  The committee has been attempting to evaluate the

      proposal that current procedures concerning the administration of the

      preliminary and final examinations in our doctoral programs be modified

      to reflect that they are "examinations by the department as distinct

      from examinations by the student's supervisor and advisory committee".

      The following changes were suggested by the proposal:

 

      Preliminary examination

 

      a.  Examining committees should be appointed by the Department Head in

          consultation with the Advisory Committee; some, but not necessarily

          all, members of the Advisory Committee may be appointed as examin-

          ers.

 

      b.  One or two additional faculty who are not members of the Advisory

          Committee would be appointed as examiners.

 

      c.  The chair of the Examining Committee should not be the student's

          advisor, but would be chosen from the two additional faculty ap-

          pointed by the Department Head.

 

      These changes were proposed as a means of increasing the objectivity

      and the departmental nature of the preliminary exam with respect to any

      particular doctoral candidate.

 

 

      Final dissertation examination

 

      a.  Departments should be permitted the option of appointing an Ex-

          ternal Examiner, who may be one of the above-mentioned "additional"

          examiners.  The External Examiner may be from a cognate discipline

          within the University of may be from an institution outside the

          University.

 

      b.  The External Examiner would be appointed by the academic department

          head in consultation with the dissertation advisor.

 

      c.  The External Examiner would receive a copy of the dissertation and

          would submit to the Chair of the Examining Committee (or to the De-

          partment Head) a written appraisal of the dissertation.  This Exam-

          iner would be expected to participate in the final examination; the

          academic department would be responsible for expenses incurred by

          External Examiners outside the University.

 

      An an examination was conducted of the 19 peer institutions as defined

      by SCHEV as well as some 90 Deans and Department Heads within Virginia

      Tech to find out whether outside examiners were utilized in the prelim-

      inary or final examinations.

 

      In the case of our peer institutions (19); at the final examination, 11

      use at least one examiner outside the department (1 reported using an

      examiner outside the University), 7 do not use external examiners and 1

      did not respond.  Therefore, approximately 61% of our peer institutions

      use an external examiner.

 

      In the case of Virginia Tech, more specific questions were asked and

      the departments responded as summarized:

 

      Preliminary Examination:

 

      Q1.  Is the preliminary examination committee the same as the

           dissertation advisory committee?  Answer: 83% yes, 17% no (46

           responses).

 

      Q2.  Do you require a dissertation advisory committee member outside the

           department:  Answer:  66% yes, 33% no (48 responses).

 

      Final Dissertation Examination:

 

      Q3.  Is the final dissertation examination committee the same as the

           dissertation advisory committee?  Answer: 100% yes (46 responses)

 

      Q4.  Is the final dissertation examination committee the same as the

           preliminary examination committee?  Answer:  80% yes, 20% no (45

           responses)

 

 

      In general based on these survey results, it would appear that approxi-

      mately 60 percent of the departments surveyed use some type of external

      examiner, either to the department or to the university, in an attempt

      to bring a measure of objectivity to the preliminary or final examina-

      tions within their doctoral program.

 

      Because of the variety of opinions that have been expressed regarding

      these proposed changes, and given that these changes will have profound

      repercussions within the structure with which preliminary and final ex-

      aminations are administered, the committee recommended that 1) the rep-

      resentatives of CGS&P survey their constituents to determine the need

      for adopting the proposal; 2) be prepared to discuss and vote on the

      proposal (or some modification thereof) during the Spring, 1994

      meetings of the CGS&P.

 

      Dr. Boyle stated that in general, there is a sense that if only 60% of

      the departments are using some type of external examiner to the exam-

      ination process, that it might be worthwhile to consider increasing the

      rate of participation of various departments in using such a process.

      There will be many variations and inabilities to start this process,

      depending upon the department, however, the committee felt that, in

      general, it is a worthwhile proposal to consider in terms of improving

      the quality of students being produced from our doctoral programs.  The

      exact mechanism for this is still unclear at this time.

 

      The committee's report was accepted.

 

 

      GRADUATE RESEARCH POLICIES AND PROGRAMS COMMITTEE - Dr.  Bob Olin re-

      ferred to a proposal (distributed earlier in the meeting) regarding

      flexibility in graduate student stipends.  Dr. Olin explained that cur-

      rently the stipend levels are fixed according to scale defined by the

      University.  This leaves little room for adjusting those scales to meet

      the stipends from competing institutions.

 

      This committee proposes to open up the fixed stipend levels into ranges

      of stipends for each step and to allow each department to determine

      where in that range they wish to pay their students.  Dr.  Olin summa-

      rized various scales as outlined in his proposal.

 

      The commission approved the concept of flexible stipend scales.

 

 

      RESTRUCTURING - Dr. Dave Orcutt stated that this committee met imme-

      diately before this meeting and came up with six suggestions on re-

      structuring for the CGS&P membership to consider.

 

      1)  Need for another member on the CGS&P representing the college of

          the individual that is currently the chair of this commission.

          The purpose of this is to take some of the responsibility for sitting

          on some of the other subcommittees.

 

      2)  Need for written descriptions and charges for the various

          subcommittees and specific responsibilities for committee members.

 

      3)  Combining some subcommittees (i.e., Appeals Committee and Graduate

          Student Relations Committee)

 

      4)  Reduce the number of meetings of CGS&P and/or consider having more

          subcommittee meetings early in the year and more CGS&P meetings

          later in the year.

 

      5)  In the development of the new governance system, the proposal is

          for university standing committees reporting back to the commissions.

          Two standing committees that are proposed to report to the CGS&P are

          the University Library Committee and the Graduate Curricula

          Committee.  The definition of the Graduate Curricula Committee is

          already covered in one of our subcommittees currently and therefore

          unnecessary.

 

      6)  The combination of the Commission on Research and the Commission on

          Graduate Studies and Policies.

 

 

  6.  REPORT OF THE UNIVERSITY LIBRARY COMMITTEE- Dr. Joanne Eustis referred

      to the minutes of the October 27, 1993 which had been distributed in

      the agenda package.  Dr. Eustis that the bids have been opened for the

      storage facility and the groundbreaking is expected in March.

 

  7.  GRADUATE STUDENT ASSEMBLY REPORT - Mr. Tim Schell stated that the exec-

      utive board met and they agreed that a high percentage of their goals

      for this year will be accomplished. He also noted the Off-Campus Hous-

      ing Center will be opening in 121 Squires, a GAPSAV meeting to be held

      in Charlottesville this Saturday to discuss health insurances issues

      and budget cuts around the state; Ken Kahn met with Congressman Rick

      Boucher regarding health insurance and the exclusion of graduate stu-

      dents or subjecting to insurance rates of $1,800.00 per year.  Tim re-

      ported that the Graduate Research Symposium will be held on the first

      weekend in April and that the first GSA meeting this semester will be

      held on Thursday 1/27/94 in Johnston Student Center 100B.

 

  8.  DISCUSSION AND COMMITTEE REFERENCE

 

      a)  4000/5000 Level Courses Admission Resolution from the Course and

          Program Criteria Committee - carryover for next meeting.

 

      b.  Course Revision Resolution from the Course and Program Criteria

          Committee - carryover for next meeting.

 

  9.  ADJOURNMENT - 4:54 p.m.

 

                                     Respectfully submitted,

                                     John L. Eaton

                                     Secretary

 

 

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