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May 2, 1988

                                    Minutes

                          University Council Meeting

                                  May 2, 1988

 

 

  Dr. Torgersen called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.

 

 

  Present:Mr. Ridenour, Dr. Perry, Dr. Teekell (for Dr. Hooper), Dr.

          Sullivan, Dr. Nichols, Dr. Steger, Dr. Doswald, Dr.

          Sorensen, Dr. Smith, Dr. Kurstedt (for Dr. Stephenson),

          Dr.  Ritchey, Dr. Cordes (for Dr. Eyre), Dr.  Johnson (for

          Dr. Geasler), Mr. Gherman, Mr. Savage, Dr. Conn, Dr.

          Heterick, Dr. Van Krey, Dr. Arnold, Dr. Fleming, Dr.

          Lovingood, Dr. Henneke, Ms. Eustis (for Dr. Campbell), Dr.

          Ludwig, Dr.Kornegay, Dr. Blieszner, Dr. Sullins, Dr.

          Paterson, Dr. Novak, Mr. Baker, Mr. Morris, Mr. Battaglia,

          Mr. Abel (for Mr. Reynolds).

 

 

  Guests: Dr. Scanlon, Faculty Senate; Mr. Ashby, Spectrum; Mr.

          Dudek, Interfraternity Council; Mr. Ostroth, Student

          Affairs Division.

 

 

  Absent: Mr. Forbes, Dr. Randolph, Dr. Misra, Mr. Ritter, Mr.

          Choby, Mr. Murir, Mr. Baird.

 

 

 

  1. ANNOUNCEMENTS

 

  Dr. Torgersen recognized those Council members whose terms expire and are,

  therefore, attending their last meeting:  Drs. Conn, Van Krey, Randolph,

  Misra, Campbell, Ludwig, Kornegay, Paterson, Novak, and Messrs. Ritter,

  Branch, Fentress, Donnelly, Reynolds, and Baird.

 

  2. ADOPTION OF AGENDA

 

  Dr. Torgersen asked for a motion to amend the agenda by moving Item 1., New

  Business,  Commission on Student Affairs, Resolution 1987-88G, Concerning

  Registration of Student Organizations, to Item 5., Old Business.  He said

  Council had referred this item to the Commission on Faculty Affairs, and it

  should, therefore, come back before Council on Second Reading; this means

  that approval requires only a majority affirmative vote.

 

  Dr. Torgersen also asked that under Old Business, a new item, Item 6., be

  added as follows:  Excepted Item:  Minutes of the Commission on Undergradu-

  ate Studies, January 11, 1988, Item 6.; "The Course Criteria Committee

  Report was presented by Prof. D.E. Egger.  A motion to approve ENGR 3024,

  Materials and Humankind was seconded and passed."

 

  A motion was made and seconded to approve the agenda as amended.  The

  motion PASSED.

 

  3. APPROVAL OF COUNCIL MINUTES OF APRIL 18, 1988

 

  The University Council minutes of the meeting of April 18, 1988 were

  corrected to include Ms. Eustis (for Dr. Paterson) among those present.  A

  motion was made and seconded to approve the minutes as corrected.  The

  motion carried.

 

  4. SECOND READING: RESOLUTION PROPOSING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A UNIVERSITY

  COMMITTEE ON ATHLETICS (FIRST READING, APRIL 4, 1988).

 

 

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  For a description of this proposal, see the Minutes of Council of April 4,

  1988.  Dr. Smith offered an amendment to this resolution, adding "one

  college dean nominated by the college deans" to the membership of the

  University Committee on Athletics.  Dr. Smith said membership of a dean

  would assure that collegiate issues are recognized and become part of the

  fabric of the Athletic Association, their behavior and their goals.  The

  motion to amend the resolution was seconded and passed.

                                                  _______

 

  An editorial correction was made changing "one noncollegiate faculty..." to

  "one extracollegiate faculty..."

 

  Dr. Arnold asked for the rationale of having membership of an alumni repre-

  sentative rather than a representative of the Alumni Association.  Dr.

  Torgersen said he feels that alumni need to be represented on this commit-

  tee because athletics is very important to them, and alumni voices should

  be heard.  In response to a question from Dr. Arnold regarding problems

  arising on a national level in regard to athletic programs due to alumni

  involvement, Dr. Torgersen said that two alumni on a committee of twenty

  will not dominate a meeting.

 

  Dr. Sullins said that during his tenure on the present Athletic Council,

  one of the most insightful and thoughtful members was the alumni represen-

  tative.  Dr. Sorensen added that the alumni will find some other means for

  involvement in athletics if not included on this committee, and he would

  prefer that they be represented on the committee.

 

  With a call to question, a vote was taken.  The amended resolution passed.

                                                                     _______

 

  5. SECOND READING: COMMISSION ON STUDENT AFFAIRS, RESOLUTION 1987-88D,

  PROPOSING COURT REPRESENTATION FOR CERTAIN CASES IN STUDENT LEGAL SERVICES

  PROGRAM (FIRST READING, APRIL 4, 1988).

 

  For a description of this resolution, please see Item 9 of the Minutes of

  Council of April 4, 1988.  Dr. Torgersen suggested that a little more

  checking be done before the policy is implemented, if approved.

 

  In response to a question from Dr. Henneke, Mr. Baker said that the Student

  Legal Services Board would review and evaluate the program to insure that

  it is meeting the needs of the student population and would determine

  whether an additional attorney should be engaged.

 

  A motion was made and seconded to approve the resolution.  The motion

  passed.

  _______

 

  6. SECOND READING: COMMISSION ON STUDENT AFFAIRS, 1987-88E, RESOLUTION

  CONCERNING FRATERNITY AND SORORITY SEMESTER RUSH (FIRST READING, APRIL 4,

  1988).

 

  This resolution would eliminate University policy prohibiting fraternity

  and sorority rushing of first quarter freshmen.  For description, please

  see Item 10 of the Minutes of Council of April 4, 1988.  At the meeting of

  Council on April 18, this resolution was deferred to the Commission on

  Undergraduate Studies for review.  Dr.  Perry reported that CUS would

  endorse the resolution if amended to include a proviso "that the Interfra-

  ternity and Panhellenic Councils pledge that initiation of Freshmen, which

  will not take place until the second semester, be restricted to those with

  at least a 2.0 QCA prior to any application of the Freshman Rule."  Dr.

  Perry reminded Council that the "freshman rule" allows freshmen to replace

  two grades for courses taken in the freshman year, for QCA purposes, by

  others although the original courses and grades remain on the transcript.

  (A copy of the proposed amendment was distributed.)

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  A motion was made and seconded to approve the amendment as stated above.

 

  Mr. Dudek, President of the IFC, said that the IFC accepted the amendment.

  Dr. Perry said that current policy requires a QCA of 2.0, but that the

  policy previously was applied later in the year.  Mr. Baker said that the

  Greeks are not opposed to this amendment and that they are concerned about

  academic standards.

 

  A vote was taken and the amendment passed.

                                     _______

 

  Dr. Kornegay asked for a description of the sequence of events that would

  take place as a result of this change in policy.  Mr. Hampton replied that

  three to four weeks after students first arrive on campus, fraternities and

  sororities would have a rush period lasting two weeks, and a freshman might

  receive a bid to pledge an organization.  The pledges would be initiated at

  the beginning of the second semester after grades are reported.

 

  The amended resolution was passed with some negative votes.

                             ______

 

  7. SECOND READING: COMMISSION ON STUDENT AFFAIRS, RESOLUTION 1987-88F,

  CONCERNING STUDENT REPRESENTATION TO UNIVERSITY COUNCIL (FIRST READING,

  APRIL 4, 1988).

 

  This resolution proposes that undergraduate student members constitute

  approximately 20 percent of the membership of Council.  For a description,

  please see Minutes of Council of April 4, 1988.  Mr. Baker withdrew this

  resolution.

 

  8. SECOND READING: COMMISSION ON STUDENT AFFAIRS, RESOLUTION 1987-88G,

  CONCERNING REGISTRATION OF STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS (FIRST READING, APRIL 6,

  1987).

 

  This resolution is a revision of CSA Resolution 1: 1/8/87.  For description

  and review of discussion please see Minutes of Council of April 6, April

  20, and May 18, 1987.  On May 18, 1987, Council voted to refer this resol-

  ution  to the Commission on Faculty Affairs.  The resolution was amended by

  the CFA and sent to the Commission on Student Affairs which rejected the

  amended resolution.  A joint committee of the CFA and CSA met and prepared

  the proposed resolution, CSA Resolution 1987-88G, as stated above, and both

  Commissions approved it.

 

  The resolution calls for the dissolution of the Student Constitutional

  Affairs Board and the implementation of a registration procedure which

  requires that a student group must submit registration documents annually

  to the Office of Student Organizations.  The CSA must approve the registra-

  tion documents in order for the group to become registered.  Once regis-

  tered, student organizations would then be afforded the privilege of

  conducting activities at Virginia Tech and would be one of three types:

 

     a. Those designated as 'primarily academic in nature' by a Dean or

     Department Head who assigns an academic advisor.

 

     b. Student organizations which have a faculty or staff advisor/coach,

     the assignment of whom is specified by an appropriate supervisor,

 

     c. Other student organizations which do not have faculty advisors.

 

  Dr. Sullivan said said Tau Beta Phi, an enginering society, would be an

  example of an organization that is "academic in nature."  The VT Union, New

  Virginians, the Extramural Sports Club, and student chapters of profes-

  sional organizations would be examples of the second category, those having

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  a faculty or staff advisor/coach; the LaCrosse Club is a member of the

  Extramural Sports Club and also would qualify as an organization of the

  second category.  The VT Ice Hockey Club is not a member of Extramural

  Sports and thus does not qualify.  Small interest groups, such as the

  Bridge Club which may or may not have a faculty advisor and which has no

  real reason to have a formal constitution or advisor, would be a registered

  organization of the third category.

 

  Dr. Ostroth said the purpose of the policy is to ensure that faculty are

  protected from becoming personally liable for actions of student organiza-

  tions.  Dr. Torgersen said that the purpose is for faculty advisors to have

  an official connection so that faculty will have liability protection.  Dr.

  Sullivan said Student Affairs is also interested in freeing some of the

  small groups from having to have a formal constitution in order to use

  University facilities; the policy would make it easier for some of these

  organizations to exist.  Dr. Conn said the key is to have a documented

  assignment.

 

  Dr. Novak raised a question about a situation when a faculty member, not

  the advisor, is driving students to a meeting at another locality and the

  liability incurred in the event of an accident.  Dr. Arnold said the policy

  would seem to draw the University into more exposure to liability suits

  rather than less.  Mr. Ridenour replied that if faculty are acting on

  behalf of the University in an official capacity they would be covered.

  Dr. Arnold asked who would make decisions about "appropriate supervisors."

  Mr. Ostroth replied that often a faculty member would ask department head

  for an appointment letter, although in some cases such appointments may be

  made through the Provost's Office.  Dr. Arnold expressed concern about

  points of procedure being unclear.

 

  Dr. Perry said the procedures could be clarified at a later time and should

  not be a part of the policy.  Mr. Baker said it would be beneficial to have

  some type of outline of what category an organization would fall under.

  Dr. Kornegay said that organizations which fall under the second category

  would have to have documentation of faculty advisors at the time of regis-

  tration and at that point whoever makes the decision can then take the

  steps necessary.  Dr. Perry agreed, saying that at the moment certain

  procedures about the liability issue are undefined, but that he would

  rather have something in place than continue to have nothing.

 

  Dr. Scanlon suggested a change deleting the word "may" from the paragraph

  beginning "Resolved the Student Affairs Board be abolished as a subcommit-

  tee of the Commission on Student Affairs and may be replaced by a registra-

                                               ___

  tion procedure..."

 

  A motion was made and seconded to pass the resolution as edited.  The

  motion passed.

         _______

 

  9. SECOND READING: COMMISSION ON UNDERGRADUATE STUDIES, EXCEPTED ITEM,

  MINUTES OF JANUARY 11, 1988, ITEMB 6.; "THE COURSE CRITERIA COMMITTEE

  REPORT WAS PRESENTED BY PROF. D.E. EGGER.  A MOTION TO APPROVE ENGR 3024,

  MATERIALS AND HUMANKIND WAS SECONDED AND PASSED."

 

  This item (for description of the item see Item 14 of the Minutes of

  Council of April 18, 1988) relates to the naming of the course Engineering

  3024.  It was referred April 18 to the Commission on Undergraduate Studies

  for reconsideration, but Dr. Perry reported that a motion to replace the

  course title, "Materials and Humankind," with the title, "Materials and

  Man," failed in CUS.

 

 

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  Dr. Henneke moved that the course title, "Materials and Humankind," be

  replaced with the title, "Materials and Man."  In response to questions of

  consistency, Dr. Perry said that other courses with similar titles have not

  recently come before CUS, and the Commission did not wish, at this time, to

  go back and look at all existing courses.  Mr. Gherman pointed out that

  course titles published in the catalog have an effect on the University's

  image and that the English Department is using the word "humanity."  Mr.

  Ridenor expressed concern about Council taking action on the naming of a

  course.  Dr. Torgersen said it was unusual but not illegal.

 

  The motion failed with 12 favorable votes, and 15 opposed.

             ______

 

  Dr. Perry said that CUS has asked him to bring the issue of reviewing

  course titles for sexist language to the attention of an ad hoc committee

  studying the graduate catalog.

 

  10. IN SUCCESSIVE MOTIONS, COUNCIL APPROVED THE MINUTES OF THE FOLLOWING

  MEETINGS.

 

  a. Commission on Graduate Studies, March 30, 1988.

 

  b. Commission on Student Affairs, April 14.

 

  c. Commission on Undergraduate Studies, January 25, February 8, March 14,

  March 28.

 

 

 

  The meeting adjourned at 4:15 p.m.

 

 

                                             Respectfully submitted,

 

 

 

 

                                             Lon K. Savage

                                             Executive Assistant

                                                to the President

 

  LKS:gf

 

 

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